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 06-02-2006, 08:00 Post: 130274
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Generally you store PT the same as regular wood.

First and foremost, get it well up off the ground to prevent rot and insect problems.

Horizontal is better, but well supported so as not to bow.

Put spacers, square sticks, in the industry called "stickers" between every second or third row to allow air to flow through the pile.

If the wood is covered with plastic or something like it be sure to use lots of blocks or soemmthing to keep it well away from the wood itself, again to allow lots of air flow.

If the stack is somewhere the hot sun can get to it be absolutley sure that the wood is allowed lots of air and keep it as absolutely dry as possible, heat and huimidity will warp & twist even the best wood given a bit of time.

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 06-05-2006, 13:12 Post: 130470
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We put up a LOT of wood every year, fences, decks, washroom buildings, etc., some treated, some rot resistant, some just plain old white wood.

We have noticed over the years that much of the hype about treated wood is just that, hype. We've had treated wood, nearly side by side with untreated wood, and they both rotted just as fast.

The problem seems to be two-fold, first is the wood itself and the treatment process, since the wood to be treated is usually very fresh stuff, it is still relatively very wet, so it absorbs very little preservative. Secondly, the treatment itself is only as good as how well the integrity of the barrier is maintained. Cut it, drill it, stick a nail or screw into it and you have an opening.

The last little while we have been using plain kiln-dried SPF lumber, and rough-sawn ungraded lumber, and then spraying them with a variety of products on-site. The first projects we tried this with are now about 10 years old and still show no signs of deterioration.

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 06-05-2006, 15:00 Post: 130483
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Ann, the simple answer is, we use regular old white pine, spruce or hemlock with no problems at all.

You DO however have to keep in mind, as Denis stated, that (any INMHO) wood in direct contact with earth is a no-no.

Further, as Paladin mentions, there is also the concern of insects, but again, IMHO the same applies to any wood.

My barn for instance, is clad in untreated white pine, it is now well over 100 years old and is not showing any signs of deterioration.

Unfortunately little we build is in a laboratory, in the real world we have to cut wood to size, and drill, nail & screw into it. Once you perforate the treated portion of the wood, it just plain old wood showing.

I know they sell end-cut preservative, but how exactly do you inject it into a nail or screw hole?

I have seen many, many preserved (with various things) wood structures rotted away to nothing in relatively short time spans.

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Ann, I did take your question as sincere, and as Denis & I both stated earlier, ANY wood / earth contact is IMHO, a problem waiting to happen.

In our particular case, we always use raised footings of some form to create a physical barrier between the wood and the ground.

As for the wood exposed to the atmosphere, and again, IMHO, if the wood is vertical, or has little horizontal surface area, I would not hesitate to use untreated wood. Having said that, it is rare that, purely for aesthetic reasons, the wood is left untreated. It is usually stained as part of the overall process.

I did however build a pergola over my own rear patio from untreated hemlock timbers and beams, leaving it untreated to weather to that nice (IMHO) silver grey colour like barn board.

We built a privacy fence for a customer a number of years ago out of untreated wood. They had renovated the old barn on the property and used it as the groundskeeping dept.'s building, they wanted a fence to hide the equipment, we suggested doing the fence in plain wood and letting it age to match the barn. They liked the idea and it worked out very well. The fence is now 10+ years old and according to the owner is still holding up like new.

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